00:02 – 00:08

Hello. Hello to our forest friends here in Memorial Park.

It is Sunday, November 10th 2024.

D and I are here at Memorial Park.

We’re so happy to see you again.

We wanted to do an Estes method session with our spirit box here, But, turns out this signal

is not very good today.

00:33 – 00:35

D: But we’re still doing it.

00:35 – 00:36

Yeah. We’re still doing this.

We’re gonna do something kinda different.

D is also going to be doing a meditation while he does the spirit box. So, you

know, so still try to push things through the spirit box.

But you can also talk directly to D,

who’ll say aloud anything he sees in his meditation, and I can respond as well.

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If you want some tones, you know, if anybody who needs them… by the way, this is my my [instrument].

Bet you’ve never seen one of these before. (plays tones)

Okay. Just in case anyone needed that.

And now with that, hello?

Is there anyone who’d like to talk?

02:22 – 02:24

D: And now I can no longer hear anything you’re saying.

02:24 – 02:25

Okay.

I might be, quiet while I wait for D to talk.

But we’re very glad to be here. I hope you’re well.

I hope that the forest service has been taking care of you and that it hasn’t been too painful.

I know they cut down a lot trying to keep you safe.

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Dreaming.

03:14 – 03:18

Well, we are trying to dream better dreams.

The world around us is not super friendly right now.

So we feel like dreams and magic are important.

What have you been dreaming about?

03:35 – 03:37

We have the foggiest notion.

03:40 – 03:43

You have a sense of what’s going on? Yeah.

Sorry to say some not-very-nice people are in gonna be in power.

They might do a lot of damage, including to, sadly, the climate.

Good news for you though, you live in California, and we have people in power in California who actually care about our environment and our climate and our trees.

So you’ll be more protected than the rest of the country will be.

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Oh, the light show it to me,

comes with the territory.

04:43 – 04:47

Yeah. Maybe you mean that metaphorically.

Because I don’t have a light right now unless you mean my phone flashlight.

But that is a strategy I have.

I wanna try to bring more light into the world to counter that–

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See us?

05:16 – 05:18

I see trees right now.

I’m not very good at at seeing spirit beings. Sorry.

Where should I look to see you?

05:43 – 05:45

The tickling of the strings.

05:47 – 05:53

Yeah. Did you like the the music I was playing on my [instrument]?

05:58 – 05:58

Once again

is here allowed? (hear aloud?)

06:06 – 06:07

You’re here allowed.

Is here allowed?

Are you are you asking me to play more music? Sorry

I’m not sure how to interpret that.

06:33 – 06:34

Offset approach.

06:40 – 06:46

Yeah. That that is the approach that D and I were talking about before we got here.

To offset the negativity that’s happening right now, we’ll add some positivity.

I’m not sure if that’s what you meant, but that’s what came to mind when you said that.

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Interesting intersection.

07:05 – 07:11

Mhmm. What what aspect interests

you? What do you find interesting?

07:23 – 07:23

Mine

and

forward.

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You find your approach interesting?

Is that what you mean?

If so, tell me what your approach is.

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Oh, unbinding.

08:05 – 08:06

Oh,

tell me more about Unbinding.

That’s, title of a movie that the Newkirks made.

We really like the Newkirks.

It’s also a concept that just means, loosening a restriction.

08:29 – 08:30

Call it

in the dare– in the Darrow?

D: I don’t think I got that.

08:41 – 08:44

Try saying that again. I don’t think D understood you.

You were talking about the unbinding, and we wanted to know why you were saying unbinding and

what that means to you.

08:54 – 08:54

Sing.

08:59 – 09:02

Well, I can’t sing and talk at the same time.

Do you want me to play music?

Is that what you were getting at?

09:23 – 09:24

the worry about natural foundations.

09:41 – 09:44

Interesting. Again, I’m not totally sure what you mean and what and in what

context. Can you keep trying to explain that?

10:02 – 10:04

Hello, that’s of the birds.

10:07 – 10:11

Hello? So something is of the birds

What is of the birds?

10:22 – 10:23

Look who has

and brings

and waits. (could they have been talking about the snacks we set out for the forest critters, including birds)

10:33 – 10:39

So somebody has something. They brought it, and they’re waiting.

What are they waiting for?

Or what did they bring?

10:50 – 10:59

It’s exciting when you’re out recording the date of a favorite.

11:03 – 11:07

You know, Guess I don’t fully understand what that is.

Can you explain a bit more?

11:26 – 11:34

But from home, taking back the nineties.

11:40 – 11:48

Take back the nineties. This point, it doesn’t sound too bad. You mentioned home.

Do you mean our home?

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It’s

a mother that door.

12:11 – 12:17

Maybe our home is like a there’s a doorway that takes you to our home.

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Is that what you mean?

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Dealing,

dealing, feeling

awake.

12:36 – 12:40

You’re feeling awake. Okay.

If you’re feeling awake, what’s woken you up?

12:52 – 12:55

Vision is on.

My road is set.

13:10 – 13:15

Oh, okay. Your vision is on, and your road is set.

It sounds like you’re determined like, you you have a determined path.

What what is your goal on your set path with your vision?

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In this house of

something.

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Tell me about your goal.

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Will be the wolf finder.

13:57 – 13:57

Oh,

that’s interesting. Now you gotta tell me in what context you mean wolf.

Some people, like me and D, we like wolves.

Other people think wolves are dangerous and a bad thing, and they’re predatory.

Which way do you mean it?

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Indicates a 4.

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The wolf finder indicates a 4.

I don’t understand that. I’m sorry. Can you try again?

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The clamor of bells and feelings.

14:58 – 15:00

Yeah. You might be hearing a lot of that lately.

What do you think about all the bells and the clamor of feelings?

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Same box,

we’ll see in

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I’m so sorry. I’m not really following a lot of what you’re saying right now, and it sounds very interesting.

Maybe can you pick one concept that you really, really want us to know right now?

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Then and now to do it.

15:54 – 15:58

Okay. Then and now to do it. To do what?

What is the it that needs to be done?

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Pull over

and look forward to

the sun.

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Look forward to the sun. That’s good advice.

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Uh-huh.

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So tell me about the sun and why why I should look towards it.

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Apparently, I’m trying to get up.

Like, oh, we have great occasions.

16:55 – 16:57

Alright. Well, that sounds fun.

Tell me about your great occasions.

Sounds like you’re having a party.

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A mirror a mirror on top of you.

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A mirror on top of me?

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It’s a formality.

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Maybe you mean like a like a shield?

Like an energetic reflective shield?

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The ready rate, it’s independence.

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Sorry. I don’t understand that.

Why is there a mirror on top of me as a formality?

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And that’s why together

replenishment or visiting somewhere.

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Okay. You wanna replenish by visiting somewhere. Or wait.

Are you telling us to take a vacation?

If so, boy, would I love to take a vacation, but, travel doesn’t seem real safe right now. And it’s just–

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be prepared to take some home.

Good. Good. Good.

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To take some home. What should we be taking home?

Do you want us to take home more soil?

Is that what you’re asking for?

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Sow the grass plants?

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It sounds like you’re asking to take home a seed. Is that right?

What what do you want us to take with us? We’ll take something home.

You just have to explain what it is.

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Yes.

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Okay. Once before, you wanted us to take home some soil.

Is that what you want us to do again?

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D: I had the image of a key come to mind.

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Okay.

19:40 – 19:41

(them) Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. You want us to take home some dirt. Okay.

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New view here pretty soon.

19:50 – 19:58

Oh. Oh, are you feeling like maybe you’ll lose some of your trees and plants, and you want a

new place to go and and be?

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Yeah. You know.

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Okay. Well, yeah, I can do that.

So is it just just soil that you want us to take, or is there anything else?

20:25 – 20:31

This experiment of people together.

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Yeah. What about it?

Tell me why you mentioned that.

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Air travel.

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Coming home with us is like air travel?

Okay. How much soil should I take?

What I’ll probably do is I’ll put some in this box here before we go.

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In the end, you know, zero friction.

And your nation’s fairies.

21:18 – 21:22

Oh, what about the nation’s faeries?

Well, okay. When you say my nation, do you mean America and the, like, the indigenous fairy beings here?

Or are you talking about ancestral like Ireland and Scotland and England?

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Hey. See what you see.

Hey.

I feel a little bit.

I feel like you’re very close to–

if you’re satisfied.

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I do not see you, though. Sorry.

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Hey. Yeah. Juice.

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Juice. Oh, we’ve got a little bit of, herbal tea left.

Or did you mean coffee?

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You bring it.

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I bring it. Okay. Where should I put it? Just on the ground?

Do you want it next to a tree?

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Where 1.8 is.

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Oh, I don’t understand that. Can you try again?

Where do you want the coffee?

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It calms things down.

For the crown on the lady.

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It calms things for the lady with the crown. Okay. Alright.

You haven’t really specified where you want it, so I’m just gonna give some to this little tree redwood tree over there.

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Better be doing than I am.

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Okay. Well, I hope that is what you wanted.

It’s the best I could come up with based on what you said.

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Transition.

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Okay. What are we transitioning to?

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Hello, mountains.

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Oh, hello, mountains. Yeah. We’re not in the mountains right now.

Are you saying you’re gonna go to the mountains somewhere?

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You are just the genesis.

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Oh, we’re just the beginning. Okay.

If we’re the genesis, what–

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It’s the night and day shift and a room.

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Okay. The beginning of the shift between night and day.

Are we going into well, I guess right now, it’s, let’s see. 3:30.

I have a couple hours of daylight left.

Why did you bring up the mountains and Genesis and the shift between night and day?

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Tell her of the house we have.

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I’m just gonna make a wild guess here what you mean.

So there is some soil from Memorial Park in our backyard back at all the way in [our city] in [our county] County south of here.

We’re a lot closer to the ocean there.

And my understanding is that makes it so that you all can come visit us at our home.

Is that what she meant?

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Come to this high spot.

And do it?

And that works out.

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Okay. Where is the high spot we should go?

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In the other place.

What you make it?

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The other place is what we make it.

Well, we do have another spot in Del Monte Forest, SFB Morris Preserve in Monterey, Carmel.

Tell me about the high place.

It sounds like you want us to go to a mountain space.

Next to us is Mount Toro.

Here, they’re the Santa Cruz Mountains.

Where is the space you want us to go?

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I hear you.

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Yeah? Okay. I’m glad. Can you tell us more about the mountain high space?

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Why not both?

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Happy to go to both places, but I do need help figuring out which place you mean.

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It could be a lot.

Don’t not too long.

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Don’t spend too long in the high place?

Why shouldn’t we spend too long?

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A base, not a home.

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Oh, so our our house okay.

You could mean that our house is a base for you and not a home. That’s fine.

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Or you could be asking us to take some of your soil to a high place in the mountains so that you’ll have a base.

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If so left. To to the left.

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Well, I I think to the left is the ocean.

Yeah. Tell just tell me more about where you want us to take the soil.

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You know how it is now?

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Not really. Tell me more.

Or maybe, it doesn’t matter where we take you so long as it’s a high place

If so, can you communicate that so I know I I need a little direction here.

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For serious.

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Mhmm. Yeah. It’s for serious.

You gotta give me some direction.

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You are.

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I’m very serious.

Mhmm.

I will take your soil, anywhere that I I can, but you gotta you gotta give me some direction

about where it needs to go.

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You’re students.

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We are students. Yeah. We’re we’re seeking to learn.

I have a bunch of things that I’m learning right now.

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And assist?

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We will try to assist you. Yeah.

But you gotta give us more information.

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Good ideas.

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You can give me the–

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origins.

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Origins. K. In Genesis. Beginnings. Alright. So something’s beginning.

Hopefully, it’s a good thing that’s beginning.

Okay. I’m gonna ask one more time for you to tell me where to take the soil.

If you don’t tell me, then all I know is that I should take it to my house, and that might not be what you want.

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I’m gonna be fine. So are you.

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I’m really glad to hear that.

Sometimes it doesn’t feel that way, so that’s that’s good to have that confirmation.

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New progressive chatting.

Hold it, dear.

And music is coming near.

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Tell me tell me about the music coming near.

That sounds very interesting to me.

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The ray is

a note of music. Energy, you.

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Where is a note of music? I am energy. Okay.

I don’t know if you’re saying you want me to play music, so I guess I’m just gonna and see if that changes anything.

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How do light and sound? Arrows fall to the ground.

The way is a wizard.

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Tell me about the wizard and the–

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After mom entrance is

The time way is 3.

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What do you mean time way, and why is 3 important?

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In the ocean, it’s a notion.

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What’s in the ocean?

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When is the door in my, my my,–

something?

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Try that again. When is the door in what?

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I I’ve heard of it.

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You’ve heard of the door?

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It’s good at that. You make it up as you go along. It’ll be even better.

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What will be even better?

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Only 17.

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Golden tripoint.

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What’s a golden tripoint?

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Your skin.

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Golden tri point is my skin, or do you have a comment about my skin?

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D: Okay. I got a a concept along with that.

Your skin as in the outward of expression of who you are to other people.

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Okay. Thanks for explaining that.

What what do you wanna say about my skin?

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Zen’s then see this, your future.

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Are you saying my outward expression of myself oh, wow

I’m just getting this very low pitched in my right ear.

Are you saying my outward expression needs to be more in line with my future? The future —

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Who runs to who?

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I’m not sure. What do you think?

For the recording, I’ll note that when I started playing the [instrument], I feel like the words got

more meaningful or at least esoteric.

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Only there’s only one clue on the table.

37:21 – 37:23

Okay. I don’t know

if that means a literal table

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Yeah.

Stop time.

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The literal clue is to stop time?

Well, that’s a tall order for creatures like us that need time to function in our world.

Maybe we meditate on a timelessness.

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A cleaner.

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Stop time and use a cleaner? Clean time? Okay.

Do you have any tips on how we do that?

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When you sleep, your brain flushes out debris.

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Well, that’s true. Are you telling us we need to sleep more?

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It was a little bit of a picture.

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Okay. So you were trying to get an example of

stopping time somehow and flushing out —

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now the 32.

They appreciate you.

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Oh, Oh, well, it’s nice to be appreciated. Who are they?

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And the

man and the man’s come face to face.

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Not sure what you mean by that.

So it sounds like you’re

you’re encouraging us to

flush out time?

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Shadows and definition.

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Flush out the shadows.

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Ever come forward.

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I don’t think I’ve ever done anything like that before.

Can you tell me how I would get started

It’s a little confusing right now.

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Overpowered by that.

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By what?

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Well done.

The ground is sweet.

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I’m glad to hear that.

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Storms, the skinny is they’ll pass.

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The storms are skinny, and they’ll pass.

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Well, that’s good to hear.

Sounds like you’re trying to be encouraging. I appreciate that.

Is there an action that you want us to take?

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Juncture.

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Juncture for what? Juncture is when 2 things come together. 2 paths sometimes.

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Couldn’t find any paint.

Celebration.

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We’re gonna celebrate. Okay. What do you wanna celebrate?

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It’s a long view.

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We’re celebrating a long view. Okay.

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D: I don’t know if this is because of what we’ve been talking about, not so much today, but in general.

But I keep seeing this,

arrow made of light with a 3,

3 sectioned head. 3

the spear is a Pathfinder. Spear, arrow.

43:30 – 43:32

Sounds like the arrow is a symbol.

It’s a very clear image, but I’m not sure what to do with that or how to interpret that or how to use that symbol. Can you clarify?

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Don’t make it harder for yourself.

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That sounds like a useful warning.

Is that in relation to anything in particular?

(joking) Maybe you’re talking about being on the Internet.

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Okay. Sounds like we’re gonna wrap it up.

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D: That’s too hard.

There’s just not enough to work with.

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Oh, seems like we got a lot.

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Did we?

Yeah. I hope so. Anything

you wanna say before we–

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Yeah. Some of that was me, like, trying to describe concepts that were just coming to

mind. Mhmm.

But I couldn’t quite get into that, like, the the kind of sort of transi state that that I have

done before, because being distracted by the the noises.

Because I know I wanna hear the noises when they come out with something worthwhile. Mhmm.

So it’s mostly just it doesn’t,

Hybridization doesn’t work.

Doesn’t really work. I think I think it would work for me to, like, have the drums in the headphones

and and try to do the trance part, but not this because I know that, you know, there’s gonna

be words or things that I need to hear and say. Mhmm.

And so it’ll, like, knock me out of trying to get something else.

So, anyway, yeah, I I don’t know if there was anything useful in that at all.

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I think there was, but it’s also a little challenging to listen and play music.

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Oh, yeah. That too.

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So we’ll listen. Oh, we’re playing?

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Mhmm. Oh.

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I do think there were a few things that were interesting. So Okay.