083124: Gods? (Spirit box and meditation, DMF)

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All right. Hello, hello to our forest friends.

I'm K and this is D. We're back again.

It is Saturday, August 31st, 2024. And we are here--

Our most comforting fable.

Oh, a fable. I love fables.

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But don't try to use it for things it's not intended.

Okay. That's interesting.

Tell me what the fable is.

I like stories like that.

Will you tell it to me?

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If you've got a view of everything, you can benefit the world. Or...

[D: That was interesting. There was this, like, multi-layered choral thing that was like... Ah-ah-ooohhhh]

Well, that's true.

If you were, I guess, omniscient, like a god, you could benefit everything in the world.

But, to go back to your...

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It's serious, but not dangerous.

So let's give just a little bit of it while we listen.

Okay.

I will listen for a moment.

02:29 - 02:45

The dial on the temple and... The road to the city

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Okay. That sounds really interesting.

What does the dial on the temple do? What does it control?

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Double.

It doubles something. Okay. What does it double?

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Okay. Most stories are true when it comes to both these things.

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Most stories are true when it comes to the dial on the temple and the road to the city. Okay. That sounds very interesting.

I'm not quite sure what to make of that.

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They say it's a big spring in theory.

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Spring can mean a few things.

It can mean, like, an upward motion, like a jump.

It can mean, like, water flowing out of the ground.

It can mean the season, spring, where things...

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Much more positive than that.

Oh, okay.

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The connection of two worlds hosted by... Something.

Try that again. D didn't hear you.

The connection of two worlds hosted by who or what.

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How about focusing on your favorite?

Oh, my favorite what? Gosh, so many favorites.

05:14 - 05:22

This is the source for when. (Win?)

Okay. So, a source.

Maybe you mean like a spring, like a spring coming out of the ground. And source for when. The source of time.

Are you saying that, like, this moment that we're in is the source for a stream of time?

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It's interesting to me making it to you three days in.

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Huh. Okay. Are you talking about time cycles?

Like, this is the source of a time cycle, this moment right now?

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Yeah. It's a big deal for days.

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Oh, wow. I just saw this tiny little lizard snake. (Found out later: Skilton's skink, which has an electric blue tail)

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You need Tyler for some of this.

It's a blue tail. That was fascinating. Okay. Tyler. Tyler.

Do you mean Tyler Strand?

Do you mean a Tyler we haven't met?

There was a Tyler once referenced when we spoke to the Diehl'im.

Tell me, tell me about Tyler.

Details for the Express.

Hey, yours, what's up?

Hey. Um.

I'm still looking for that tiny little snake thing.

So what's up is that we're here.

We're talking to Forest Beings here in SFB Morris Nature Preserve.

Supported by Mother, Dame.

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Yes, supported by MC We're pretty sure.

And possibly there is a principality or a guardian being of this land that we sit on.

Maybe we could talk to her.

08:12 - 08:23

This one caught me for extra speech sessions.

Hmm. Okay.

Well, I guess you could consider this a speech session. So, um.

What do you mean by extra?

Is this somehow an extra session?

....

Well, here, let me ask a question.

Who is, I guess, the guardian or the protector of this land?

The genius loci, sometimes it's called.

They're like the spirit of the land, the region.

When we go to Memorial Park, way to the north, we speak to someone sometimes and we call her MC.

Maybe there's somebody like that here for this land in the DMF.

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This indication.

Yes. I don't know if this is going to hurt.

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I hope it doesn't hurt.

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But it also says there were.

Um, weekend.

Para aqui.

Weekends for here.

Well, we have no intentions whatsoever of hurting you or causing you pain.

And I hope that whatever it is you're doing doesn't hurt you.

We don't want anyone to suffer or to feel pain. Do you feel okay?

Also, tell us if there's--

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You can see that somebody is doing.

Wind and workings with the world.

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Who would that person be?

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Welcome to the ought channel.

The ought? channel. Ought as in zero?

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[D: That made me think zero. ]

K: Yeah, zero.

Welcome to the zero channel.

Tell me about the zero channel.

What does the zero channel cover? The ought channel.

Also, please let us know if there's anything you can do to make our communication easier.

I remember. I remember.

All right. What do you remember?

Tell me your memory.

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It's art and the other part of.

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You're remembering art. Okay. Well, before we started this box session--

Back to back sensations.

Remember some sensations.

Okay.

Before we started this session, D and I were talking about magic being an art.

Is that what you're referring to?

This is so soon.

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I'm not sure what's what soon or why it seems soon.

What do you think is important for us to know?

Like, is there a message you want to convey to us?

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D: I'm going to... Let's try the other method. (Meditation)

I am Mostly getting music and it's mostly in Spanish, so it's kind of hard for me to tap into. So.

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K: I'm sorry for the technological interruption, to our forest friends who are listening.

The spirit box session spirit box isn't working very well today.

So D is going to try meditation.

He's going to meditate here and he's going to say aloud what he hears.

Or what he sees, I mean, in his mind.

And we will try to interact that way.

So I will probably be quiet until I hear him talk.

But you can try to put images into his mind or concepts or words and he'll say what he experiences.

D: I'm sorry--Last time, did I have the (headphones on)?.

K: I don't remember. ... You did because you couldn't hear my questions.

D: I think it helps. Yeah. [For clarity: D has noise canceling drummer's headphones on and can't hear my words throughout the following session. He isn't consciously responding to my questions]

D: Okay. I guess I'll start out by noting that I hear this high-pitched the low feeling. Like it...

My impression is that it's a really high pitched hum, but it feels like I can feel it sort of...down. Which is very contradictory.

Opening myself up to this place.

Okay. I call out in gratitude.

To our spirit friends that watch over us and facilitate this exercise/working.

I call out in gratitude to the land.

And those that have walked on it before us.

Our brothers and sisters in the sky. Here now.

Mother ocean. Sky......

I have a sensation of a pillar.

That feels like it has different colors, but I don't see them. It's mostly like.

A little bit of goldish yellow. And. Clear. Column.

....

Okay. I almost have a feeling like the direct sunlight is overriding everything else. (we were in direct sunlight in our little forest alcove)

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Okay. Would it be better if we move to a shady spot?

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The next sensation I get is like wings. But they're made of sunlight. And there's a....

Almost as if the wings were attached to an Oval. And there's someone inside the oval. And.

The overall shape becomes more birdlike, but there's still somebody inside it. And it's like a way of getting around and seeing things.

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Who is in the oval of the wings?

I mean, hello. Hello to you.

Can you tell us who you are?

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Now I get a sense that the person would be female-presenting. And now sitting comfortably. Possibly cross-legged. But the sunbird can go where it wants.

Sunbird. I like that.

Is there anything that the woman in the sunbird would like to tell us or ask us communicate to us.

I think that the stop here is mostly like a curiosity.

Well, hello. We're curious about you too. I'm K. This is D. And we are just kind of exploring this forest and meeting the beings that live here. We have good intentions. We don't intend any harm. Only good intentions. We just like to know more about who lives here in this forest. In the spirit world. Because  we're physical humans. We can't really see you. Or perceive you very well.

I get the sensation of a closer presence from this individual. Right over here. Right above the bushes. Almost as if standing on the tips of the bushes. Now kneeling down. And making tentative petting motions ..on.. around us. And looking pleased.

I can't see you. I did just hear a very weird high pitched noise. (Same as D's? Different than any other "ear ringing" noise I heard before. Consider Robert Bruce's belief that this kind of ringing is a sign of spirit manifestaton). It lasted for maybe three seconds. I don't know what that was something you did? If so I heard that. But I can't perceive you other. But hello. D said you seemed pleased. Can you tell us what pleased you?

The sunbird is known by the dragon I refer to as Ahn Tsaang Luu.

How do you know each other? What does Ahn Tsaang Luu want to say about the sunbird?

I think the Sunbird person can see the ascending path. Ahn Tsaang Luu is a bit of a psychopomp.

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So to see the ascending path which to me sounds like a path to the afterlife. To what we humans would consider the afterlife. (K: now after having listened to the whole thing, I think this might be Upperworld as opposed to Underworld, not the afterlife. In D's belief, the soul goes to multiple places after death, including the Upperworld). That's what I think of when I think of Psychopomp.

I saw what seemed like a solid object change into a flock of birds made of light going up that column I was talking about.

Is that column the ascending path?

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There's multiple pathways. Like being at the center of a sphere.The sphere is made of arrows pointing in all directions [like a chaos star symbol made into a sphere with infinite points pointing out but not going beyond the boundary of the sphere, except there was no actual boundary, just so many arrows of the same length stopping at the same distance from the center. Like the Big Bang. Or like Pythagorean Tuning with music scales and geometry] . And the ones we're most familiar with...

The wind in the sea pushes vellella vellellas (by-the-wind-sailor jellies) around. (on later listening we aren't sure what this means). The roots sink into the earth.

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And where did these paths lead.

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Because there's a lot of other pathways, it's important to understand that those aren't more important than any others. They're just easiest for us to understand.

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Do these pathways lead to, what we humans might think of as different dimensions or different realities. Where do they go?

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Wow. Even Ahn Tsaang Luu is surprised that she laughed and turned the circle inside out. So that the arrows also point inward.

What's that mean?

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I think the intention is that all of the places that you can go are also contained where you are. [Fractal/holographic universe, we later discussed. Or how 1 note is essentially the same when you go up 100 octaves. Or how we could be sitting in 100 enharmonically equivalent universes but our brains are only designed to perceive 1. It's just easier to pay attention to this one universe we're in]

Does the person in the sunbird live here or do they take another path to a different place. To their home.

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I'm getting an impression that the same is true for "when" as "where." The time is not that important but from our Way of perceiving it She follows Where the sun Shines down. But that's only what we perceive.

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Okay. And What is she doing Here. Seems like maybe she can go a lot of places but right now she's here where we are. Why here? Is there something she wants to do.

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There's one of those petting motions. I'm getting the feeling of like When you're walking someplace and you see somebody with a really cute dog and you stop to pet their dog.

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Do we seem like cute pets to you? Like you want to pet us. Maybe you're petting the dragons or the fox with us?

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I think she might be interacting with our spirit friends. But I don't know if anything we're saying or doing is reaching her so much as our spirit friends are interacting with her.

Oh. Okay that that actually makes sense. Okay so Perhaps White Fox you can be our interface. White Fox can you find out any more information about the person in the sunbird and tell us about her.

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There seems to be an affinity for Ahn Tsaang Luu and White Fox and Avisa. If not prior interaction you know some sort of familiarity at least. Some kind of recognition.

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So White Fox, Ahn Tsaang Luu, Avisa, Can you Tell us How is it that you're familiar with the person in the sunbird.

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Okay. I feel like there could be A fourth but it's not really working out. Almost like we could use four of our spirit friends to form the base of a pyramid. But those three were Intuitively obvious. But the others don't seem to fit into that fourth spot.

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Is there anything that we could do To make it so that D and I could communicate With The sunbird. In particular, I'd like to know if the sunbird is native to the land here in the forest. Or if she is visiting or if she comes and goes in this land.

I have a feeling that this is just a chance interaction and it won't last very long so I want to get more information before it passes.

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Yeah, we would love to know anything more about the sunbird. Who she is, how she found us. How she knows our spirit friends. What she is doing here. If there's anything she wants to say to us. If she notices us at all.

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Okay. I'm getting an image of that column again. I wonder if that's our beacon that's been talked about. Caught some attention. This isn't somebody that we're going to connect to. I'm getting more impression it's just random passing-by. But it is pointing out that... I feel like the advice from this passing stranger is that we need another to help with the fourth base of the pyramid. Some grounding.

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And if we had a fourth spirit friend to make that pyramid base, what would the effect be. What would we have if we did that that we don't have now. I guess yeah just like what would the effect be.

With a fully functional cone, pyramid-thing... It feels like a way for the communication to come down and stay contained within that area. Building on itself so that it's easier to understand and pick up on.

Okay. What kind of Being would be good for that.

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I'm really trying to push the idea that... I'm not sure if what we're looking for is like a grounding anchor. Or if maybe somebody we already work with could take that spot and just isn't used to the concept. Or--Also that flashing.

Flashing?

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Yeah like there was a lot of flashing. All of a sudden.

I saw no flashing. Oh. Oh. That's what it was. It was my phone the reflection light off my phone. Okay. Sorry.

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Okay. So the pyramid isn't a pyramid it's just when you're only aware of four anchor points, You think of it as a pyramid but it's actually round shaped at the bottom. I'm reminded of the fact that in math, perfect circles are made up of tinier and tinier points connected together. So really all circles are actually also geometric shapes with an infinite number of sides. I'm not sure if that's relevant. Um.

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So, it sounds like we need another spirit friend to help us with our communications to form like a grounding base. Who would be a good candidate for that maybe someone we already know, or we need to find a new person. Um.

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(D) By the way, technical note. Next time we do this I want to put some white noise in because I can't tell what you're saying but I can tell you're talking and when you start and stop. But if you're asking questions or making statements I don't actually know the content so much... I'm aware of the fact that this is so much lighter, which is kind of like a pun, like it's not as heavy of a feeling and not getting the intense emotion. Like I did last time.

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Okay. White Fox and Ahn Tsaang Luu. Is there anything else that you can tell us about the nature of the sunbird, or things that we could learn from her.

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I'm going to kind of cycle through my own list of spirit friends. To see if there's any insights. Insight is particularly White Fox's domain.

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And also note that I have two spirit friends that I don't think D really interacts with because they're personal to me, but maybe you want to talk with them. That's Black Cat and Blue Phoenix.

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Okay. Light and sunlight are associated with wayfinding, making it easier to find things, find your way around. We're very sight-driven. Ahn Tsaang Luu is a wayfinder from one world to the next. White Fox is a wayfinder from... Well for us, people and places and things we can connect with. Avisa is a wayfinder to Jupiter, specifically, but also rewards for effort put in, and knowledge of opportunities. With that in mind, I keep thinking of Green Dragon but I get the impression that Green Dragon isn't so much aligned in this way it's, it's a different kind of wayfinding. If I think of  Fohdi, I think of the sunlight sparkling on moving water, as if there's a friendly connection, but it's also not quite right. For the red protector that would be good for grounding and filtering, but also is not quite right. Koi fish is ... I understand why Koi fish isn't quite right but I can't quite put it into words MC ...this interestingly, it's not her thing. She's just not that interested, though she does seem to be a wayfinder of sorts. The house spirits, it's not their thing. I know that K works with a black cat , but that doesn't seem right. Maybe a dragonfly and a hummingbird?

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Blue Phoenix used to be a hummingbird.

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Also not quite right. I feel like this fourth one needs to be anchored to the earth, but also... Interacting with the sunlight. Well... I don't know.

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Hermes, if there's anyone you want to send our way. Let us know. Way-shower, resourceful Hermes, flies through the sky.

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Maybe this is... Maybe this is supposed to be for a plant being...one that anchors deeply with roots, but gains sustenance from the sun.

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Well, almost all plants gain sustenance from the sun.

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I just had an image of Plant Boy sitting there, Plant Child. I think gender is meaningless here. And it's not the right fit, but they're happy to sit in that spot. ... Also the moment is passing.

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Well, it was nice to meet you, Sunbird. I hope our paths will cross again someday, but... I understand if you're on to other paths. Thanks for talking with us.

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Why do I get the impression there are like two or three... Larger...voices that are just kind of watching and like... Smiling, but not... Not getting involved.

Hello. I can't perceive you, unfortunately, but... Hi. Is there anything you want to say to us? If so, tell D.

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Note for later is... How is the lyre associated with the sun?

Apollo. Apollo.

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Ooooh! I thought Apollo, and I just got that wash of emotion.

Wow. Hi, Apollo.

Oh, got it again.

Um, that's... really interesting. Well... Hi, is there anything you want to say to us?

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What the heck? I just got the impression that one of them took the top of the...pyramid/cone and went like this to spin it.

Wow, um...What effect will that have? And I wonder who the other two are. Maybe one is Hermes? I'm not sure who the others would be.

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One of the other two is... I was going to say darker than Apollo. I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean like... More associated with... Non-sunny places. Places where the sun don't shine. Haha! That's not what I meant.

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I guess that could be Hades? (Later, D says he thinks the "darker" figure is Orpheus)

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One is associated somehow with birds and flight and thought.

That sounds like Hermes.

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That was a little emotional kick in the stomach. I don't know why. (He clarifies it was a confirmation feeling)

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Maybe it really is Hermes? If so, hello. I'm sorry, I can't see you. I wish I could. Or perceive you.

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I can feel a little bit of wetness hitting my cheeks. (He is crying due to the intensity)

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Maybe the other being is... Poseidon? Or Artemis? Given that Artemis is associated with the moon.

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Interesting. They also have associations with places on the...On the base and on the top of the cone. But it's not pyramid points like I was thinking of before. Also... Their forms kind of...I want to say explode, but I don't mean in a violent way. Maybe like suddenly expand... In hugeness. Like a burst of light. And a burst of movement. And a burst of... Comforting... Shadow?

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I guess that makes sense. I mean, the sun would cast a shadow, right? And if you were in the shadow, that would mean that you were in the presence of the sun. The sunbeam. Is there anything you'd like to communicate to us?

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Don't stare into the sun. And don't mourn for it when it's not above you. Don't hide in the shadows all the time. And be willing to explore. Ooooh, I got... Intense mid-body sensations. And got the impression of White Fox interacting familiarly with the other entity. Like almost... Almost cuddling. And...

Could that be Hermes? Because  I've introduced them to each other.

01:02:39 - 01:03:02

(D is crying) I wish I knew what that meant. I mean, the... Sudden urge to start crying. Just weeping.

Can any of you help us understand that response that D is having? The crying? I tend to think that mean he's touching a divine presence, a very powerful spiritual presence. But I don't know if that's correct.

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I feel like maybe it comes from. getting too close to a concept Too large to be contained Within this body. (Which is why tears and shivers are a quick discharge from the body using its natural functions) Maybe. Yep. Salty. Somehow that's also a reminder That we contain within us... The sea.

01:04:12 - 01:04:17

Yeah, that's a good point. Anyway, White Fox Maybe you can remind D that if things get... Too big... He can take a step back.

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Hmm. I just got... The thought that what's going on right now is...because... When I was opening Pathways...I was also being influenced by our recent thinking. Things we've been talking and thinking about. It seems kind of important that My (tarot) drawing before we left the house was... The Queen of Wands and the Ace of Cups.

01:06:20 - 01:06:28

So... I'm curious to know who... There are three beings. One seems to be Apollo. The other I might guess is Hermes. Who... Who's the third one?

01:06:46 - 01:06:54

I... Feel like things just got cooler. I think that's probably literally a cloud passed over.

Yeah, it is. (Cloud had definitely passed over)

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But there could be a request for some Quiet singing of something original. If you wouldn't mind.

Oh, sure. Well, I'm probably not going to do words. Because... I don't have... I don't know.

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There's a movement at ground level now. Some curiosity. If you were standing in a circle of palm trees... And they all suddenly...The tops kind of leaned in towards you.

Hmm... Hmm... Oh, that's very Orphic. Hmm... Maybe one of the other beings is Orpheus. Hmm... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm...

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I just got the weirdest sensation.  It's like being on the opposite side of one of our sessions. Where spirit beings sit down Or Maybe...I think the time part is meaningless. But they have Like a statement of., "We invite Earthly beings with love in their heart." Just like we say. Except we say... You know, more... "Spirit beings." (D says later this is just applying to the forest beings, not the three godlike beings)

Oh, wow. And... For what purpose? Are you just curious about us? Or curious about me? Or...Is there some other reason? I'd love to know what you have in mind when you make that intent.

My sense is keep doing what you're doing. Oh... Wait... My initial thought was...Keep doing what you're doing right now, K. Keep doing it, but... It might actually be... Keep doing these workings.

01:10:33 - 01:10:39

Yeah, because right at this exact moment... I'm not doing anything. I was singing. I guess I could do it again. Hmm... Hmm... Hmm... Hmm...

01:11:27 - 01:11:39  The sunbird is kind of moving on. And it feels like  everything else is fading a little bit...

Goodbye sunbird...It's nice to kind of meet you...Hope we'll see you again...

01:11:59 - 01:12:02

Just got a large golden eye with...Well that's actually kind of backwards of the way we usually think of it... A large golden eye... On a golden face... On a golden face... And there's...A pyramid inside the iris of the eye...Instead of an eye on a pyramid...

01:12:22 - 01:12:29

It's a pyramid in an eye... I wonder if that's... Apollo? We think of Apollo as a golden person, as the sun

I keep getting... Interruptive thoughts from the Newkirk's pyramid power thing..I don't think it's actually related...

Oh, that's... That was hilarious...

01:12:58 - 01:13:25

I think it's more a matter of... Our limited perception... Doesn't... Help us to understand... That it's... Not... It's not a pyramid... It's a... An expansion... And collection... Of energy...Really more of a cone...

I'm getting interruptive thoughts from... The ranch... (Skinwalker Ranch's "cone" discovery")

01:13:37 - 01:13:45

Yeah... We would like to understand... To get help understanding... As much as possible...In a way that is... Healthy...For our human bodies and minds... We are spiritual beings... Probably capable of understanding quite a bit more... But we're also... In these physical bodies... That are limited... So... We welcome help understanding... In a way that's...Beneficial for our bodies and minds...

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Yeah... The ground is harder here than usual today...

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I wonder why that is...

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There's a sense of waiting for the marine layer and looking forward to it...

Oh... It is sunny today... And that might be...Extracting some moisture from the ground... I think it's usually a bit cloudy here...Next time I'll bring my lyre... My Greek lyre... If that sounds good...

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I see a note... With... Somebody's hands... Trying to... Write on... The note... But... The letters are Fire. And it's too much...To write It's too much...And the person can't actually write...

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Thank you for trying to use a form that we might understand...Sounds like that's still a little too intense...I know you can also communicate with us through dreams...If you help us remember the dreams... Through synchronicities... Through visions... And meditation...Kind of like what we're doing now... Um... Through... Books... Music... Um... Kind of like those synchronicities... Algorithms... You know, maybe have a video in our YouTube feed... That... Um...I don't know, there are all sorts of ways...

If it's too difficult to... To write like that... In a vision... (Now I wish I hadn't said that, it's too imprecise and easy to misinterpret synchonicities) Is there something you would like us to do?

01:17:50 - 01:18:16

Um... I feel like... I feel like there was... The kind of kiss that a grandfather might give to a great-grandchild... I feel like... From another source... There was an impression to think of rain as tears...But they can be tears of happiness and joy as well as regret or sorrow...And... A phrase from a poem I wrote a hundred years ago that started with, "listen to the wind, it knows where I am," Except it might have been "It knows who I am or...What I am, how I am... "

Wow... Wind, okay... Okay... The Borealis... The Zephyrus...Those are the wind gods I can think of...Of course I'm thinking of the Greek pantheon but... Perhaps...You have many faces and names in different pantheons or just...General ideas, I don't know...

There's a lantern...It makes me think of the lantern the hermit carries...

Hecate? Could that third figure be Hecate? She carries... (a lantern)

01:20:13 - 01:20:20

That's interesting, before it was like all... Overwhelming...Warm kind of energy, I just got this cool energy going up and down my back...

Oh, that's interesting... Chthonic energy... FOr a Chthonic goddess?...

The moon card...

The moon, Hecate... Artemis, maybe... Well, hello... Hello to you...

01:20:54 - 01:20:56

The chariot and the star...

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Huh... Interesting... Is there anything you'd like us to do?

01:21:17 - 01:21:26

The intensity is way down and honestly I've got...

01:21:31 - 01:21:35

I think we stopped there... I hope...I hope that wasn't just silly...

No, oh my god... Should I stop this for now? There's an hour and 20 minutes...

What?

Yeah... Wait...Well, part of that was the Estes Method. Should I pause it or do you want to say anything?

01:21:58 - 01:22:08

Um... I feel like I could say things, but honestly my mind's a little jumbled right now, so... Something...

01:22:08 - 01:22:10

Okay, I'm gonna pause this...